Do You Feel That People Are Spoiled? Wow Is That A Campaign Slogan?

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a user here has said:
“People are spoiled. Stop asking for free handouts from the government and TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. I’m sick of seeing answers like #1 “my dad makes XX amount and none of us get free college or health care, wahhhhh” boo hoo, its not the governments job to spoon feed or give you freebies your whole life. Work hard and youll be fine. Be a lazy bum, and youll be crying for more handouts the rest of your life…”
Aside from the fact that MENTAL ILLNESS can account for why MANY veterans or just regular people CAN’T reasonably be expected to “work hard”….please come to Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and tell people we are SPOILED!
Is this Mccain’s view too…that people who are medically uninsured or inadequately insured are just …SPOILED?

2 Comments so far

  1. Michelle M on September 29, 2009 6:15 am

    I’ve seen numerous questions/answers that lump everyone who receives government help into the same category of “lazy people who should get off their butts instead of begging for a free handout.” But it’s not that cut and dry.
    You’re right, there are people with mental and physical disabilities that are not able to provide for themselves. Family members and charities/non-profit organizations can help, but many times the government has to step in.
    There are also people who need temporary help when faced with unexpected financial hardships. A stay-at-home mom who’s husband has just died can’t be expected to start working the day after the funeral. Should they go without food and medical care since they are obviously lazy? No. They need a chance to get back on their feet.
    Are there people who abuse the system? Of course there are and it would be nice to be able to put an end to this because they are taking away resources from people who truly need it.
    As for McCain, I don’t think that’s his view. He was on David Letterman’s show last night talking about the mortgage crisis. He wants to find a way to make sure people don’t lose the American Dream, but he also doesn’t want to reward the people who’ve bought 3 properties in order to flip them to earn a profit or the dishonest lenders out to make money off of unsuspecting borrowers.

  2. Nemesis on September 29, 2009 6:56 am

    McCain has never said anything remotely like “people are spoiled,” so not sure how HE got dragged in to a response from some YA’er that got you bothered.
    Yes, some folks ARE spoiled and have an entitlement attitude. That’s fact.
    The MAJORITY of folks having problems, however, have been ripped off. Look at health care as one prime example.
    When 75% of the people who declare bankruptcy over medical bills ARE INSURED, then insurance is CLEARLY not the answer.
    “Aldrich’s situation is “asinine” but increasingly common, said Dr. Deborah Thorne of Ohio University. Thorne, co-author of a widely quoted 2005 study that found medical bills contributed to nearly half of the 1.5 million personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. each year, said that ratio has likely worsened since the data was gathered.

    Like Aldrich, Thorne said, three-quarters of the individuals in the study who declared bankruptcy because of health problems were insured. “http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20201807/
    Now, HOW, when someone HAS insurance and jumps through their bogus hoops, can he end up with a medical bankruptcy? CORRUPTION. Is there ANY candidate out there addressing this? Nope. Hillary wants to FORCE you to buy into UNREFORMED insurance; Obama says the kids must be insured. McCain says the industry needs changes and we need tax credits, etc. so folks can buy insurance. NONE of them is fixing it, but Hillary is FEEDING the beast.
    FACTS about insurance:
    Linda Peeno, MD testified that SHE had often denied treatment JUST to save the insurance company money http://www.thenationalcoalition.org/DrPe…
    Furthermore:
    “the vast majority of health insurance policies are through for-profit stock companies. They are in the process of “shedding lives” as some term it when “undesirable” customers are lost through various means, including raising premiums and co-pays and decreasing benefits (Britt, “Health insurers getting bigger cut of medical dollars,” 15 October 2004, investors.com). That same Investors Business Daily article from 2004 noted the example of Anthem, another insurance company. They said the top five executives (not just the CEO) received an average of an 817 percent increase in compensation between 2000 and 2003. The CEO, for example, had his compensation go from $2.5 million to $25 million during that time period. About $21 million of that was in stock payouts, the article noted.
    A 2006 article, “U.S. Health Insurance: More Market Domination, More CEO Compensation”
    (hcrenewal.blogspot.com) notes that in 56 percent of 294 metropolitan areas one insurer “controls more than half the business in health maintenance organization and preferred provider networks underwriting.” In addition to having the most enrollees, they also are the biggest purchasers of health care and set the price and coverage terms. “’The results is double-digit premium increases from 2001 and 2004—peaking with a 13.9 percent jump in 2003—soaring well above inflation and wages increases.’” Where is all that money going? The article quotes a Wall Street Journal article looking at the compensation of the CEO of UnitedHealth Group. His salary and bonus is $8 million annually. He has benefits such as the use of a private jet. He has stock-option fortunes worth $1.6 billion.”
    –Save America, Save the World by Cassandra Nathan pp. 127-128
    “Insurance Companies Robbing Patients
    Robbing patients to pay CEOs leads to unprecedented medical insurance corporation greed.
    Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:52 AM
    By: Michael Arnold Glueck & Robert J. Cihak, The Medicine Men”http://www.newsmax.com/medicine_men/medi…
    Clearly they routinely violate CONTRACT law (denying legit claims), ANTITRUST law (more than half the markets they set the prices). Dig a bit and see other BS they pull and anyone who doesn’t want to correct the system is IGNORANT.
    The system needs fixing. It IS broken. That doesn’t alter the fact that some folks ARE spoiled and the media loves to give attention to them instead of reporting on REAL problems. Look at FACTS about Medicare, for example, the media doesn’t cover this:
    In the US, Medicare is going bankrupt. In 1998, Medicare premiums were $43.80 and in 2008 will be $96.40–up 120%. “Medigap” insurance is common because of the 20% co-pay required for service. Medicare HMOs are common because they reduce that burden without an extra charge in many cases. HOWEVER, many procedures which used to have no or a low co-pay NOW cost the full 20% for the HMO Medicare patient. ALSO the prescription coverage they tended to offer has been REDUCED in many cases to conform to the insane “donut hole” coverage of the feds. Doctors are leaving Medicare because of the low and slow pay AND because the crazy government wants to “balance” their Ponzi scheme on the backs of doctors.
    “That dark cloud lurking over the shoulder of every Massachusetts physician is Medicare. If Congress does not act, doctors’ payments from Medicare will be cut by about 5 percent annually, beginning next year through 2012, creating a financial hailstorm that would wreak havoc with already strained practices.
    Cumulatively, the proposed cuts represent a 31 percent reduction in Medicare reimbursement. If the cuts are adjusted for practice-cost inflation, the American Medical Association says Medicare payment rates to physicians in 2013 would be less than half of what they were in 1991.”http://www.massmed.org/AM/Template.cfm?S…
    The docs are NOT “spoiled” because they can’t afford to take a 50% CUT in pay. The seniors who complain about increased expenses are NOT exaggerating or spoiled. WHAT politician do you think is going to fix these things as NONE acknowledge them?